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>> consider this: the news of the day plus so much more. >> we begin with the growing controversy. >> answers to the questions no one else will ask. >> real perspective, consider this on al jazeera america > the islamic state group seizes an air base in syria, despite the air strikes against them. how likely is statehood for is. leading economist mohammad al-ariane. i'm ali velshi in for antonio mora. those stories and more ahead. this is "consider this". >> u.n. says the islamic state
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group committed crimes against humanity. >> cold-blooded, systematic killing of civilians. >> it's prayer not protest as michael brown is laid to rest. >> the value of this boy's life must be answered by someone. >> the ukraine president dissolved parliament. >> a column of russian tanks and vehicles near a border city. >> russia denies knowledge. >> francis hollande dissolves his government. >> a rare copy of a superman comic book sells for $3.2 million, the highest price paid for a comic book. >> adult women playing video games outnumbered teenage male planes. the reason is candy crush and the kardashians. >> we begin with the latest on the international community's push back as the islamic state group continues a campaign to
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consolidate and expand a califate in syria and iraq. is was condemned for appalling and wide-spread crimes. >> targeted killings, forced conversions, abductions, trafficking, slavery, sexual abuse, the destruction of places of significance. >> that includes the yazidi community in iraq, besieged on mt sinjar after is massacres leaving 5,000 dead. is also persecuted christians, turkmen and shi'ite and sunni muslims who reject is and his form of islam. bombers struck the is strong hold in raqqa after is fighters seized the syrian army airbase nearby. while syrian president bashar al-assad's government says it's willing to welcome everyone it wants to fight what it calls the
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terrorist opposition, white house press secretary admitted president obama has not decided whether to pursue military action in syria. >> the president is serious as he's demonstrated about confronting the threat posed by i.s.i.l. that is why the president ordered air strikes in iraq. >> those air strikes have not stopped islamic state fighters securing their gains and trying to win over captive populations. for more on the state i.s.i.s. is trying to build and whether they can succeed i'm joined by former assistant secretary of state and public affairs and now a fellow at george washington university. pj, good to see you. i understand at the state department now, they are under going a process that they last under went when they were trying to understand al qaeda. where they discovered it was perhaps bigger and more powerful than they thought it was going
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to end up being. to some degree they are scrambling to get as much information on i.s.i.l., i.s.i.s. or the islamic state as they can. >> certainly i.s.i.s. benefits from the example al qaeda sets. i.s.i.s. was a member in good standing of that organization, but al qaeda kicked it out, because it thought its tactics were too brutal. it is part of a global movement, but obviously it is the latest pretender in trying to establish an islamic caliphate within the middle east. what distinguishes i.s.i.s. from its predecessors is the ability to gain meaningful territory, hold that territory, and govern the territory. it has significant assets that others have not yet attracted. >> in the words of counterinsurgency expert, this
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is the most dangerous terrorist group in the world, because in his words th: you heard this said different ways, do you believe it true or are we overreacting because we are surprised by the speed at which they have been recruiting and, you know, achieving their aims? >> certainly ali. there has been a surprise here. they have moved very rapidly. they took advantage of mistakes made on both sides of the border. syria and iraq. they certainly have generated a certain level of appeal. it remains to be scene. across the middle east. very, very few muslims necessarily want to live in the kind of state that the islamic state is trying to build. and we saw with its predecessor al qaeda in iraq, that over time they overstayed their welcome,
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and the sunnis in the - in those provinces of iraq cast their lot as part of what was called the anbar awakening. that can happen again, but part depends on improving his performance. the problem is when you say very few muslims would want to live under this, in fact, in syria and iraq, there'll be a lot of muslims where they pay faxes and not just bribes, where the water runs cleanly and electricity runs more than it has. there's concern this has less to do with islamic state, and more to do with the fact that iraq is a failed administration, and syria is a failing one. >> and then you add nigeria into that mix as well. ultimately, while there can be a role for a military force. we have seen in the u.s. action in the iraq side of the border, that it had succeeded.
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with cooperation on the ground by iraqi security forces and the kurdish peshmerga, they have regained territory. ultimately the solution is better government, more inclusive government. that is likely or possible on the irane side of the equation than we see now on the syrian side of the question. >> syria seems to have put out enough signals, you know what, don't fly your air planes over our country, you want to deal with them, you deal with us. this has washington really concerned. will we have to pair up with bashar al-assad to get rid of what might be a bigger threat? >> that certainly is sofia assefa's hope. it is complicit in the development of the late receiver, as they try to divide and conquer. his various opponents.
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bashar al-assad would love for the united states to say you are the lesser of two evils. he is part of the problem. he is contributing to the environment in syria na enabled a group like the islamic state to blossom. you do need to have more effective government in iraq. a better government in syria, and a more effective government in nigeria, and other like states to complete the threat. >> i spend most of my time following economics. the islamic state is a remarkable group. they make money off of ransoms, they control the border crossings, or a few of them. they make money off of that, tolls, roads. they tax people and give them receipts. they sell oil. what role can the united states and the west have in sanctioning oil. there's no regulation to buying or selling oil. everyone can buy oil, and clearly someone is buying islamic state oil.
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>> i mean, as we have seen in many crisis, ali, there's a black market for oil, and this is part of the challenge, is to try to over time not only reduce the islamic state's political appeal, threaten them in ways that they haven't been able to do, but try to find ways to contain the level of resource. that is probably one of the distinguishing factor for the islamic state. we can add to the list robbing banks. they have a great deal of assets at their disposal, and that's why they are probably going to have staying power for the future. >> always a pleasure to talk to you, pj crowley, a fellow at the george washington university. >> turning to ukraine, petro porashenko dissolved the ukranian parliament and said elections would be held october 26th, saying the government doesn't represent
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ukranian society and deputies are aligned with russian separatists. the move before petro porashenko is set to meet vladimir putin for peace talks. kiev accused moscow of sending troops disguised as rebels to open up a new front against the military in the south part of donetsk. it's a charge russian foreign minister lavrov dismissed. what now. william taylor is a former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, and vice president of middle eastern africa at the u.s. institute of peace, and joins us from washington d.c. ambassador, good to see you. thank you for being with us. ukranian president petro porashenko meets with president vladimir putin on tuesday. hopes are slim for any real progress. what do you think is likely to happen from the meeting? >> well, it's certainly possible that an agreement could be struck here. it depends on the russians, and mr petro porashenko made - he
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offered to devolve authority to the local governments all over ukraine, that give local governments the ability to choose language and how they spend their budget funds and local infrastructure. in return, however, the russians would have to agree to cut off the support, the supply, the equipment, the weapons to the ukranian separatist, the russian-led separatist in south-east ukraine, that are supported by the russian, that has to stop. if it does, if mr vladimir putin decides he can stop supporting these folks, and to cut them off from their source of supply in russia, then it's possible that a deal could be struck. the devaluation is important to vladimir putin, because he feels that if decisions can be made on a local level, it is more likely that those ethnic russians in the ukraine will be able to maintain some of the control over their own affairs. control over their own affairs
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would be fine as far as kiev is concerned. the government is willing to devolve authority. it's not willing to make autonomy or allow these so-called independent movements to have real control over foreign policy or foreign trade policy. that is clearly the role of the central government. if there is an interest in local autonomy, in terms of budget decisions, language decisions, that's something that you can meet with. >> ukraine's military continues to clash with rebels. ukraine said 10 russian soldiers were captured. russian separatists were captured and paraded through donetsk. we heard they were spat on, things thrown at them. the sanctions so far have been tit for tat, and nobody is really getting crippled by them. russia's economy is taking a hit. i'm concerned that russia is
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waiting for the weather to get colder, where their real weapon, which is natural gas could be used. >> they have a weapon in natural gas, that cuts both ways. the russian government depends on natural gas and oil sales for 70% of revenue. if it cuts off those sales, it is in a real financial strain. so that cuts in both directions. the ukrainians have supplies, reserves. there are better pipelines these days than there were when the russians last cut off the ukranian. the interconnections make the natural gas supply system more resilient. there is a danger, and the cold weather is definitely coming. however, it hurts of russians at least as much as it does the europeans. >> could it be that the russians are buying time to create their own economic zone so it matters less what europe does. this whole thing started because
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ukraine is facing europe a little more than russia. russia in the meantime tried to create a trading zone in its own area and own traditional - with own trading partners. russia probably is served by dragging this out longer than sorting it out quickly. >> if the russians want to establish themselves as a trading partner to the east, and cut themselves off from the europeans, that's fine, as long as the ukrainians get to decide which way to go. the russians have been adamant, that they want to pull the ukrainians in with them. the ukrainians, as we see, are not interested in joining that club. they want to be part of europe. they want to trade with a vibrant economy in europe, than with those in the east. if the russians want to set themselves up in the east, that
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is fine, as long as they allow the ukrainians to decide. what is the response from the west. we have a situation in europe where the economies are slowing down, hesitant to impose sanctions. at the same time, you know, there's got be some development. europe had its borders breached with the crimean situation. >> absolutely. there has now been violation of borders for the first time since world war ii it and the cold war. europeans have a lot at stake. they don't want to see a violation of the borders. they don't want to see a war between two states, between russia and ukraine in the heart of europe. they want to be sure that they can put sanctions on that will deter them, but sanctions are not the only thing. sanctions are important to be expanded. they are not the only thing. in addition to sanctions, europeans and the americans ought to support the ukranian
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military and provide financial support. >> what do we think about the humanitarian aid from russia. russia's foreign minister says there's a second conveyed headed to eastern ukraine. the ukrainians say it's not aid, it's russians, and they'll come in looking like separatists or people who are not actual russian soldiers. what do we make of this? >> it's interesting. totally cynical. the russians are sending in humanitarians, at the same time as weapons and troops. the cynicism is amazing. however, if this humanitarian convoy can be inspected by the ukranian border guards in russia before it comes in, and if the international red cross can accompany this humanitarian convoy and distribute the goods. then we know that there are ukranian civilians in need of this humanitarian assistance. if they want to provide it, fine. the best thing they can do for
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humanitarian is to stop the fighting, war, supplying of the separatists in eastern ukraine. >> a pleasure to talk to you. thank you for joining us. >> ambassador william taylor. >> now for more stories from around the world. we begin in ferguson, missouri, where the funeral for michael brown was held on monday. hundreds of mourners filled the church along side civil rights leaders. al sharpton called for peace, and heaped michael brown's case will be a -- hoped michael brown's case will be a turning point. >> michael brown doesn't want to be remembered for riots, but remembered as the one that made america deal with how we going to police in the united states. next we head to west africa, the ebola virus wreaks havoc, democratic republic of congo confirmed an outbreak of a different strain of ebola from
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the one burning through liberia, sierra leone, and guinea, to help stem the spread sierra leone passed a law on monday making it illegal to harbour someone sick with the disease. sunday - a british nurse working in sierra leone was airlifted to london after catching the virus. japan announced it will offer an experimental drug to expected countries. it works by preventing the virus by copying itself. we end in cyber space where sa pristine original copy of action comic's number one was sold for a record-shattering 3.2 million on ebay, making it the most expensive comic sold. action comics number one is the first time the world was introduced to superman. the seller called this book a museum piece. of the 200,000 printed, only 100 or so survived. billed as the finest known copy of the most sought after comic book in the world, this
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$3.2 million comic sold for so cents in 1938. that's some of what is happening around the world. coming up, europe's economy is struggling, and it could have a major impact in america. leading economists and who predicted america's 2008 financial crisis joins us. average joes are solving cold cases across america. a closer look at amateur sleuths, picking off where police leave off. plus our social media producer, harmeli aregawi is tracking the stop stories on the web. what is trending? >> michael brown was laid to rest on monday. the controversy continues. the "new york times" is in hot water over the way the paper described brown in an article. i tell you more coming up. check out the social media pages. share your thoughts about the topic we are discussing.
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little outweigh those of doing too much. that is excessive upward wage in price pressures, not in france, where the country's government was dissolved on monday, after the economy minister argued austerity had gone too far, and was herding the french economy, which suffered six months of zero growth. >> the s&p set a high. for more i'm joined from california. a chief economic advisor to allianz sc. and chair of the president's global development counsel. good to have you here. >> thank you. >> the french government dissolved on monday after the economic minister resigned, insisting that austerity had gone too far, none for a left-leaning government to think about, but what does this tell us about austerity policiesias
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europe. do they... >> france and roourp more generally is searching desperately for the growth modelled. >> so basically whether it's france, whether it's what the european bank - europe needs... >> the problem across europe in most cases is slowing economies. i'm worried how we'll be. the economic powerhouse appears to be weakening. where would this growth come from. >> first we should worry, as you point out. germany slowed. the locomotive has slowed. if you look at the second quarterer. the three largest economies showed significant weakness. where does it come from, three
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sources where i want to grow. improving competitiveness, secondly, more action by the european bank, and thirdly you need to rebalance, which is another day of saying where there's a will to spend, there isn't a wallet. where there's a wallet. and you need to combine both. europe can do that. europe again - you did mention energy, we talk america, growth, energy. europe has a problem on the doorstep. that is russia, they have taken a more aggressive stance than in june and july. as the winter months approach, russia opposes the natural gas, 30 or 40% of it. what does europe do. given its dependence on russian energy. >> europe is in a difficult situation, on the one hand it has to do something to counter
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russian aggression. on the other hand the more it implements sanctions. russia has moved now, and this if this substance, ultimately down the road russia can destruct the apply of energy from europe, and that unam bigguously will tip russia and europe into recession, it's a lose-lose situation. it is get another reason why people are worried about the economy in europe. should we be worried about contagion to the united states. >> yes, we should. as we point out. it's a trading partner, it is, as a region, one of the biggest in the world. i tell people you can't be a good house. if the global neighbourhoods deteriorates. then the u.s. would feel it. the s&p hit a record above 2000.
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in fact, when you look at the mark, the s&p, it's up 35% since the beginning of 2013, some people are warning that this market may be overhead. the other argument is much of the run is investors brushing off world event, interest rates are low and stocks the only game in down. what do you think. both arguments are right. let me explain, amazing resilience on the stock market. it shows itself in the ability to brush off economic weakness. why is the market so confident. for two reasons. from one, the markets believe and have been conditioned to believe that the central banks are their best friend, and the central banks will be there, if markets come under pressure. that's the only way central banks can get to economic
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objectives. the second reason, there's a tonne of money coming into the stock market. individuals are underinvested. companies with massive files of cash are putting the money to work. so higher difficult tent, and through m and a activities that boost the price of confirm well beyond what is justified. investors are confident to brush off the bad fundamentals, because they have two strong attributes in their pockets. >> you and i talked about moral hazard, where the government intervened to help out banks in the financial crisis, we worried it would create an environment where people would take risk thinking someone would bail them out. is that what the banks are doing, knowing they'll be bailed out. >> it's what every investor is doing, there's a tremendous stretch for returns for yield.
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people believe that the central banks will keep volatility low, and you can take more risk because you will not be knocked out of the position. and my worry among central bank watchers. is that there's excessive risk taking. if this hand off doesn't work from policy induced growth, if that handoff doesn't work, there would be trouble down the road. this policy of growth is important for people to understand. let talk a little more. more households are investing in the housing market. and we see a run up, even though it's slowing down from home price values, at some point interest rates are going up, and mortgage rates go up. what happens in a normal world and interest rates - mortgage rates are in the 6-7% range, how
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does the world look. >> in a normal world as interest rates go up. house affordability is hit. which means people are lesable to afford homes, but the housing market cannot complaint the sort of performance it may have. central banks do not want to see the central banks come up. they'll do whatever they can to delay that, and they have a multitrack world, where the fed is less accommodating. it's taking its foot off the accelerator. it's not pressing the break fbility the ecb is -- break. the ecb is getting more complicated. we have a world in which central banks don't want interest rates to go up aggressively, and people are confident to push all prices higher, but there is a level beyond which it doesn't make sense. the housing market is starting to get closer to that level.
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from my viewer, whose close relationship is a mortgage or a home purchase. the fed hasn't made a single move. a looser economy by putting money in. it hasn't made a move. the mortgage, 3-year fix mortgage has gone from the low 3s to 2.5% to the high 4s, down to about 4% now. mortgage rates move regardless. they will be higher. that means if you haven't refinanced. do so. be careful. don't look in for 30 years, if you don't think you'll ta in your home that long. look at the shorter end of the curve, it is more depressed. and there's better value in mortgages. think about how clearly you are going to lock.
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don't buy too much insurance in terms of 30 year mortages. take advantage of what are historically low rates. >> i wonder if you have a view on ipp version, that finds americans buying and merging. this hit home to me. we heard that burger king is looking to take over tim horton's, canada's dough nut place and play lower income taxes. what are your thoughts? >> inversions, and more generally, what i call noncommercial mergers and acwis wigsizition -- acquisitions. inversions is a company reacting to shareholders, without taking the national interest into consideration. from an individual company's poif, it makes sense to try to arbitrage the tax regimes, from
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a country poif it's problematic, if everyone does it, it undermines the connext in which the companies operate. it speaks to corporate tax reform, an element where there's complete agreement that something needs to be done along with immigration. along with labour markets. except disagreement as to what that is. when there's agreement to what that something should be, immigration, no one wants to be seen collaborating and cooperating with the other side. >> when i look at mcdonald's and burger king. mcdonald's has been an american icon from the beginning. most people own shares in it. it has the ups and downs. burger king is a private equity company. it's been brought and sold by various companies, do they care,
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this business you say about dealing with the national interest. there's a lot of companies that don't give a hoot. they want to be an in a place where they pay the lower camps. should they care, yes, how do you reconcile? through tax reform. >> a pleasure to talk to you. mohammed, the chief economic advisor at allianz. >> time to see what is trending on the web. >> a lot of people have taken issue with the way "new york times" described michael brown in an article on sunday. reporter writes:
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monday people took to social media to describe things they had done to make them no angel: "the times" national editor said the choice of word came from an opening paragraph, where brown told his father about the time he saw an angel. she said: the reporter john says he does understand why people are upset, and that it may have been better to say that brown was not perfect. there seems to be an accused awareness with how the media is
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conveying michael brown. this is really taking off on social media. there is an acute awareness of how the police and community are dealing with these things. it's importance that we think well about our words in this circumstance. >> we can put ourselves in his shoes and wonder how we will be portrayed. >> straight ahead. amateur detectives are solving cases that long confounded real police. inside a group that cops call doughnuts. also big changes for burger king, including a controversial move for american companies, and who says video games are for guys. the boom in female gamers, later on.
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an estimated 40,000 sets of unidentified human remains are stored in the united states in evidence rooms, freezers, graves marked with the name, "do." thousands are added every year. with the help of the internet amateur detectives the world over can dive into evidence for cold cases decades old, hoping to bring closure or justice to the families whose loved ones one day disappeared. joinings us from newton, massachusetts, deborah from the
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skeleton crew. what a fascinating book, you wrote a book about people who do this almost as a sideline. we have seen reality shows about bount yit hunters. this is not about bounty hunting, it's people who use the internet to connect missing people to remains that have been found. >> yes, exactly. i think initially a lot of these people came across these cases by accident. they may have known somebody what knew someone who was missing and they went on the internet to see what they could do. then they found a case and they sort of get sucked in to the mystery of it, the challenge. you know, who was this person, how could they not be identified. just like something you find on c.s.i. >> one of the things that is interesting is in the early days of the internet. and a main case that you study here comes from the early days of the internet. that was one of the things
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people did. they put information about missing people out there, hoping that the worldwide web would help them find that missing person. tell me the story about tent girl. >> well 1968 a young woman was found by the side of the road in kentucky. wrapped in what the police thought looked like a carnival tent. because they couldn't identify her, she game known as tent girl. fast-forward 10 years, more than 10 years, a young man in living stone tennessee heard about the case and became obsessed with it. he spent 10 years of his life working on it. it was really just the advent of the internet that allowed him to bring back her name. >> he met with success, in that he contacted the police in this jurisdiction in kentucky, they had the body exhumed and tested. that's how this went forward. can people call up and say "i
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have a lead on a cold case of yours", and how do the place look upon it. >> i think it happens less so. people try to do this. the police have had varying reactions to being contacted by the public. their initial response is usually suspicion, why is there somebody who is not connected to the case who is interested in it. but, as time goes on, i think some people realised - i talked to a few detective who say without the help of the public, they would not have solved some of the these cases. >> you have a woman you have written about, ellen leach, who has solved five cases. i suppose she's at the leading edge of the movement. who are these people. people like ellen leech and the man that looked for the tent girl. what motivates them in. >> you know, they are really scattered across the country. they are really a wide range of
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backwards and interests. i think the thing that is uniform among them is they are under employed. their day jobs are not as stimulating as they might be. when they go on the internet and come across the cases they are drawn in to the challenges, and some spend hours every weekend, searching, hoping to make a match. ellen is unusual in the numbers she's made. there are many out there committed to the cause. >> i imagine if you are a detective and police force and you think there's a chance someone may break a cold days, you are apt to go for it. >> it depends. some in law enforcement dub them the doughnuts, as in jane and john do and don't appreciate
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their hope. some people can be insistent in trying to get information. law enforcement is not happy about that. when some of them solve cases that are not solved, they don't like being shown up either. >> i was fascinated by the number of bodies that show up every year without identification. tell me about the number of bodies, and the number of them who may have died because they were murdered? >> well, the national institute of justice as you mentioned did a survey at some point, and the number they came up with was 40,000 nationally. now, on average, 4,000 bodies show up in core nurse and medical examiners across the country. at the end of the year, thousands are unidentified. these numbers added up. half are victims of violent
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crimes, and half of them are accident victims, suicide victims. >> you know, you mentioned that some of these people do the work tirelessly at night, and go for it. i guess that's part of the problem, the resources. we watch on tv images of investigators who are effortlessly identifying bodies, because they run it through computer systems, coming up with composite images, things like that. the reality of these doughnuts, the people who try to identify these missing people - it's more difficult. >> it's really very challenging. it's a real needle in a haystack kind of endeavour. but it really - in real life, the forensics and even though things have come a long way certainly with d.n.a. and other techniques, the reality is that when you have a skeleton, or you have an unidentified body, it's - there's a lot that can be off. you know, even the best forensic
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anthropologist will tell you aim can be off by a decade. height by number of, and the gender is in question. it's a really kind of difficult problem to solve. >> remarkable story. >> good to see you. thank you for joining us. deborah is the author of the "school don crew." coming up, we track female gamers, while gamers being male is wrong. burger king next in data dive. sh
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today's data dive orders up a fast food combo. burger king is in merger talks with canadian cop tim horton's. shares surged in the first day the trading after the news of merger broke. they'll operate as stand alone
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brands but would benefit from shareholder corporate service, and global scale and reach. what is in the combo. $22 billion in revenue, 18,000 restaurants in 100 countries. the new country would be located in canada, letting burger king use a popular move called tax in version. american corporations are merging with countries based in other countries with lower corporate tax rates. and switching the headquarters to those nations. canada's rates are capped at 86%, lower than the u.s., which matches out at 40%, that's corporate tax, the highest in the world. because of endless loopholes, u.s. companies come nowhere close to paying the lofty rates. and burger king's deal comes during a rough time for mcdonald's. they reported their worst monthly sales, global sales down
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2.5% in july. there's health concerns, a meet plant. serving mcdonald's plants. a news report showed workers picking up meet from the factory floor and shipping meet after its exploration date. russia announced it's taking mcdonald's to court over insanitary conditions saying inspectors found ecoli in salad. sceptics thing it has more to do with politics than hygiene. regardless monday mcdonald's stock is down. the surge in female gamers world wise, a move question conventional wisdom on video games.
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if you thing the average gamer is a teenage boy locked in the basement eating candy bars and drinking soda - thing again. adult women represent 36% of those playing video or computer games, more than double the number of teenage boys who are gamers. for more we are joined from san francisco by a senior west coast tech editor or business insider. great to have you on the show. i don't believe the numbers, what is behind them. >> the numbers are awesome. as a people aawesome, i represent half of all the gamers playing. so i'm excited that these numbers are making the rounds right now. i guess a little about what could be behind it is that the numbers don't separate out. casual games, games you play on the iphone, and consule games, which you play on the xbox.
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it lumps those in together. making 50% of women playing all the games. >> the supposition here - adult women are probably playing more on the phone, they are not getting ex boxes. we know that market. the con sol business has been flatlining or declining. >> it depends. the report doesn't break those numbers out. >> it says 50% of women are buying games, whereas before they were thought to just be playing the games. this report shows that they are buying the games, which is great news. that means the video industry pays attention to that. >> the entertainment software did the study. they have not broken it down. it makes me wonder if they are hiding something. seems like two industry, the industry where you bought a console and bout the games and bout the ones that fit your
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console. this is declining. this new business is easier, but it's a different industry. the people who make apps that people play on is not the industry that was behind consoles and gaming. >> sure, it's a different industry, but it's - these are people who are video game players, whether they play it on the phone or tablet or computer or console. they are players, showing this is a big industry. and regardless of whether people are playing on the phone or playing on the console, the industry needs to pay attention to all the females that are flooding the market. i'm a little fascinated by the inept purchases that these female gamers are taking advantage of. the kk hollywood app is proented to make $200 million by the end of the year.
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kim kardashian is getting a chunk of that. women, people are playing the games and making purchases in the app. >> yes. when up - you download a game. whether it's free or $0.99. it's not necessarily the money maker. the money maker is what happened after you make the game in order to get ahead. whether it's the kim kardashian gaum or farmville or candy crush, you can buy things been the game to level you up and get ahead. it's a way of cheating. because you spend money and you can skip a level or buy angry birds that clears the level for you. people are thinking - sinking a lot of money into that. >> let's talk about the stereo dine that some may have had. for some time it hasn't been a sub 18-year-old boy, it's moved into an older generation amongst males. that idea that someone has a console and gear and equipment
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that goes along with it, wedded to increases in processing power, more vivid graphics, what is happening to that part of the industry? >> that part exist, but i think that - these new numbers show that that is not the only part of the industry that is important. so we still have these, you know, gamers that are into sinking money into the machines, and into esports is a new industry, that we saw today with the purchase - with amazon's purchase of twitch, which is a site that is solely devoted to people singing time into -- sinking time into playing the video games, it's a big part of the industry. for some time, it's broadened, and now we are all sorts of people playing, whether it be on the phones or whatever, you know, on the consoles. i think that that - you know,
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stereotype is statered. which i think is -- shaterred, which i think is a good thing. >> what happens where we play more on the mobile devices, clearly some of the tablet, the graphics and the blaming is good. the games we are talking about, whether it's kk hollywood, candy crush or 2048, these tend to be less sophisticated - it's not true - but they are catering to a different type of gamer, how do you see this evolving? >> i think that helpfully if people are playing the games and that introduces them to the video game world, that maybe they'll switch to more sophisticated systems like let's say a nintendo hand held system, nintendo ds, and they'll enjoy playing that, and get into a nintendo which, and into the xbox 1. i think the easier it is to get into the industry, if people
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enjoy it, there's so much out there to choose from that they are not locked in. i don't think people will stop playing the easy games, as you mentioned, less sophisticated games, but i think it makes it easier to fall into it. >> don't judge me, the only thing i have on my phone is talking tom. >> whatever you like it play, whatever helps you pass the time and relax. >> it does. >> you are a gamer. >> i guess you heard me, i'm a gamer, i'll have to stop saying it with derision in may voice. >> core ooen, a tech editor. tuesday - why the islamic state is a greater threat than al qaeda. revolutionizing college - an entrepreneur thinks he can eliminate elections tenure and football. the conversation continues on
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